looping power steering lines fluid or no fluid

blackbetty · Post by **blackbetty** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:52 pm

any one able to explain exactly how to do this.if you were to drain all the fluid wouldnt your rack seize up???but too much fluid and its really hard to steer or so ive heard

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:33 am

This link may help, but once depowered you most likely fail w.o.f.

http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php

blackbetty · Post by **blackbetty** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:51 pm

so the only legal or wof able way would be a manual steering rack?anyone know how much they are and wea to get one from? im in auckland

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:04 pm

Try Ross for one

mx5mart@xtra.co.nz

Post by **jif** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:53 pm

On 24 February 2010 08:33, WideOpenThrottle <mx5talk@mx5forum.co.nz (mx5talk@mx5forum.co.nz)> wrote:

This link may help, but once depowered you most likely fail w.o.f.
http://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/depower.php

yeah, I did that (and failed WOF) but if I reckon if you did it cleanly enough for them not to notice (tidily cap the lines coming from the rack, and not just tie them outof the way like I did

it'd be all-good. It was a bit heavy after that, but no worse than our Mini used to be!

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brownie · Post by **brownie** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:42 pm

Manuel racks are like rocking horse poo's,Sad thing is about 8-9 years ago when P/Steer conversions sold like hot cakes we didn't want the old non P/Steer racks back !!,
Check www.miataroadster.com ,they had depower kits for $50.00 usd,At the very least it's a damn good site for everything you can imagine for these cars from all over the world.
But yes depowered racks are a WOF fail.

blackbetty · Post by **blackbetty** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 8:55 pm

how do the manual compare to a depowered rack?wich would you prefer?

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:09 pm

As long as you get the car even slightly in motion before you turn the steering then a manual rack will be fine!

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:15 pm

Also, i have depowered mine,left no visible hoses,plugged the holes with treaded caps.painted it and fitted a custom splash -guard so from underneath the rack is hidden!
Will nervously be going to get WOF sometime soon.
Will report the outcome!

blackbetty · Post by **blackbetty** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:19 pm

haha sounds pro as! good luck

Euen · Post by **Euen** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:44 pm

blackbetty wrote:how do the manual compare to a depowered rack?wich would you prefer?

The manual is slightly different ratio to make it easier to turn without power assist.

Manual steering ratio: 18.0:1
Power assist: 15.0:1

Steering wheel turns, lock-to-lock: 3.3 Manual
Power assist: 2.8

Like Wide Open Throttle I have done the full depower as per FM instructions and have neatly plugged all the holes. So far have gone through 2 wof's without comment. I guess it will depend on where you take it and who does the inspection beause the extra effort required to turn the wheel at low speeds is quite noticeable.

WideOpenThrottle · Post by **WideOpenThrottle** » Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:48 pm

Where do you get your WOFS Euen? Must be the place for me!!!