Noob wheel paint query: All done

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 1:34 pm

I really like the look of these. New rims for $40 in paint? Yes please.
I'd really like to know how this sort of stuff is done. Also, if anyone knows where to get the centre caps from, please feel free enlighten me with information on either.

OR, if you want to practice your wheel painting skills, I'll give you the paint and you can practice on mine!

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:05 pm

1. Clean rims, VERY well. Paint is only as good as it's prep
2. Etch prime
3. Paint whole rim the inside colour
4. Mask middle of lip using paper tape and paint lip and inside/rear with lip colour
5. ???
6. Profit

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Awesome. Easy to do with tyres on? Also what is etch prime?

warrior · Post by **warrior** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:51 pm

Search you tube. There are heaps of vids on there

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:02 pm

Ahh man, incoming headline...
IT student fails to utilise existing helpful media; is embarrassed

Will have a lookie on the tubes a bit later today.

warrior · Post by **warrior** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:06 pm

Im sure ross from mx5 mart has the centers. Good luck getting a reply from him. Im still waiting from a week ago

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:12 pm

Etch primer is a kind of primer that tends to work well. Use newspaper or playing cards to mask the tyres, spend time masking or it will look like shit

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 3:42 pm

warrior wrote:Im sure ross from mx5 mart has the centers. Good luck getting a reply from him. Im still waiting from a week ago

I've heard about the sporadic reply times. I don't mind waiting as long as I know what's actually going on.

Snapfrozen wrote:Etch primer is a kind of primer that tends to work well. Use newspaper or playing cards to mask the tyres, spend time masking or it will look like shit

Yip, ok. Abundance of newspaper in this house. Any particular tape (serious) or will that blue scotch stuff do?

Junkwhale · Post by **Junkwhale** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:19 pm

Chances are you'll be painting over the OEM paint on the wheel, so just use normal primer rather than etch. Etch primer contains something like phosphoric acid and zinc which is great for adhering to bare metal and preventing it from rusting, but not helpful when you're painting over paint or clearcoat on the wheels.

1. Clean / sand w 400-600 grit / wash off dust / degrease w/ solvent of choice (alcohols/turps etc)
2. mask with masking tape/newspaper/plastic/whatever
3. couple of coats of primer. It helps if you can stand the wheels up off the ground like on a bench or something (so they're vertical and you have clearance to get the bottoms etc)
4. 5-6 light even coats of paint of choice. try to keep spray can/gun nozzle at 90 degrees to the surface you're painting, and err on the side of less rather than more to help avoid runs

edit: yep that blue scotch painters tape is perfect if it's this stuff you mean

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:28 pm

Mean. Have a karma.

MrGrey · Post by **MrGrey** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 7:14 pm

in the wheels section of this forum have a look at my thread "mr greys rimjob"

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:00 pm

That... Doesn't sound like a good idea.

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Sun Apr 06, 2014 10:39 pm

4A-GE wrote:Mean. Have a karma.

I was going to take it away just so I could do an evil laugh but decided it was easier to give you a second one instead

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:14 am

I-it's beautiful...

Toolbox · Post by **Toolbox** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:15 pm

I wouldn't be using Turps as a degreaser as it is oil based and can react with the paint

Junkwhale · Post by **Junkwhale** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:26 pm

^^ yeah you're right, shouldn't have put turps! you'd have to wash it off with something. Isopropyl alcohol is good (i think!)

MrGrey · Post by **MrGrey** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:03 pm

meths is fine as its alcohol based and evaporates quickly.

I have done a few sets of rims now (images of the results can be found in my rimjob thread) my suggestions for your job:

- strip paint off using diggers industrial paint stripper ($15 for a tin from bunnings) rather than painting over the old paint

- white knight make a good range of rattlecan spray paint "rustguard" and I would use an etch primer and then a top coat with your final choice of colour

- warm your rattlecans prior to spraying for a good flow and warm your surface you wish to paint for a nice smooth finish.

- when spraying remember that your first coat is a light dusting while your following coats are "wet coats" .... it is ALWAYS better to do multiple light coats than 1 heavy coat

- give adequate time between coats to avoid 'orange peeling'

- do not rush and remember that 90% of a good paint job is in the preparation

Toolbox · Post by **Toolbox** » Mon Apr 07, 2014 9:02 pm

When I was painting cars I used Prep-Sol cleaning solvent used for removing
grease etc. Google Prep-Sol

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Tue Apr 08, 2014 8:28 am

Woohoo! Finances time.

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:32 pm

There was no etch primer in stock today, so I bought just two spray tins of top coat. Some variant of grey as well as the brightest looking silver I could see (both mr grey approved).

Attacked all the caked on brake dust and other shit with a wire wheel drill attachment and some real hefty degreaser. Ended up using weeny little brass brushes to get into the bits where the daisy petals meet the outside rim.

... Then I remembered I have a waterblaster, so I gave them a stonking good going over.

Will be checking the shelf again for etch primer shortly.

In other news, The black strip around my sill is looking kinda sad behind the front wheels, so while I was at seaper chupe having a quick browse, I noticed this stuff.

http://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/online- ... 0408#Cross

Is it as simple as mask off, spray on? If yes, I'll have a crack at that in the near future.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:12 am

Read most of the replies.

Didn't see any mention of wetsand.

Get some 2000 grit wetsand, rough it up, then primer.

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:06 pm

I would not use 2000 grit pre-paint. 2000 grit is a finishing grit before using compounds, not for paint/primer preparation.

400 or 600 grit before primer, as someone said earlier.

Toolbox · Post by **Toolbox** » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:49 pm

Mr Shine you are 100% correct in what you say.

DEATH_INC. · Post by **DEATH_INC.** » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:28 pm

We do this stuff at work....I recommend prepsoling, then wetsanding (dishwashing liquid in the water) with 600, prime with a high solid primer, wetsand with 600 again, then coat with your colour/clearcoat.
Wheels get covered in silicon when it gets used on your tyres, this crap will make 'em wax like you wouldn't believe....hence all the wetsanding. Trust Me, it's worth the extra effort.

4A-GE · Post by **4A-GE** » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:50 pm

Today I went and bought things. Probably should've tried to hassle herr grey for a fat deal on the paint but meh, I'm happy now and tomorrow is a day off!

Bumping the thread with pictures of manly things.

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