What'd you do to your car this week/weekend?

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:11 pm

chris wrote::facepalm: hahahaha

just got told that anything over -1.3 is excessive camber...

It kinda scares me that these are the people legalizing our cars.

According to Miata.net (which, as with anything online, should be taken with a grain of salt of course) the factory alignment's rear camber is -0.72° +/- 0.5°. That being the case, the maximum factory camber is -1.22° and so the maximum certifiable rear camber (according to the guidelines and without taking into account a certifier's own permissible discretion) for an MX-5/Roadster should be -1.72°.

Which is still pretty tame compared to what you end up with purely by lowering the car.

punkoutnz · Post by **punkoutnz** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:20 pm

Well my car has had maybe 1.5" drop (probably not even that) and has been that way fo 10+ years and my rear camber is at 2.3". So technically it wouldn't pass current cert laws...

chris · Post by **chris** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:21 pm

-1.72 sounds a tiny bit better...

But still so hard to get :'(

Meh

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:32 pm

punkoutnz wrote:Well my car has had maybe 1.5" drop (probably not even that) and has been that way fo 10+ years and my rear camber is at 2.3". So technically it wouldn't pass current cert laws...

This is the problem, because it would provided that:

2.2(2)(a): “Steering mechanisms and their mountings, or any systems by which a driver controls the direction of a vehicle, must provide the vehicle with safe, efficient, convenient, and sensitive control.”

2.3(8 ): “Low volume vehicles which have undergone significant changes to the suspension system must feature no abnormal suspension geometry, and be aligned so as to provide satisfactory handling characteristics, and ensure against excessively shortened tyre life.”

2.4(1): “All modified production low volume vehicles with modified suspension systems must perform in a manner which preserves at least the quality of steering control which could be reasonably expected when the vehicle was originally manufactured.”

However, it seems the new guidelines (which allow for a vehicle with more than an extra 0.5° negative camber beyond factory tolerances if they meet the above requirements, which were already in place before the change) have cowed certifiers into not feeling able to exercise their discretion within what was the existing framework anyway.

chris · Post by **chris** » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:41 pm

IMO Mu car fits into those "limits" The only one it may be pushing would be excessive tyre wear. But even then, I doubt it. Ffs

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:50 am

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:34 pm

Got off the phone to a LVVTA certifier, Lance Walsh, really good guy. And also agrees the camber laws are to strict, however, the penalties are to great for him to certify anything over -1.8 so. shit balls.

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:58 pm

Spamming this thread. Sorry.

Is anyone here good at maths? Who am I kidding I know some of you are. Please hit me up!

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:05 pm

chris wrote:Spamming this thread. Sorry.

Is anyone here good at maths? Who am I kidding I know some of you are. Please hit me up!

Depends what you want to do with your maths...

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:51 pm

I will hit you up on facebook. It is to do with forumlas etc

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:53 pm

chris wrote:I will hit you up on facebook. It is to do with forumlas etc

You just described my job

SLYDIT · Post by **SLYDIT** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:46 pm

ive been working on some new guages. heres a rough rev counter not yet finished...

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SLYDIT · Post by **SLYDIT** » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:49 pm

oh and for you guys wanting a good calculator website....heres one i use all the time...

http://www.blocklayer.com/

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:35 pm

I can maths

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:07 pm

Soooo after 2 days of driving around and messing about I finally found someone to install them! I was going to do it myself but I dont have all the tools. They put new boots on too.

They are gorgeous.

Close up

Before

After

Turning circle

Cant wait to try them out properly, getting an alignment tomorrow morning.

CordedBowl · Post by **CordedBowl** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:49 pm

Looks awesome Furai!!

Dat turning circle.

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:32 pm

Thanks man the turning circles great!

Got an alignment and fitted diff brace today, can now hear a little diff whine its cool.

CordedBowl · Post by **CordedBowl** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:38 am

Sweet, now you can tell everyone you have a supercharger

!

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:37 pm

CordedBowl wrote:Sweet, now you can tell everyone you have a supercharger !

Haha dont want that Im an NA Man!

chris · Post by **chris** » Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:46 am

DUPER CHARGER.

I cleaned the hell out of my engine bay at 330 am this morning.

Must be a speed freak

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:14 pm

Used CAD(Cardboard Aided Design) to see how hard a spoiler would be...

siren676 · Post by **siren676** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:24 pm

Cardboard fibre spoiler

CordedBowl · Post by **CordedBowl** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:24 pm

Furai wrote:Used CAD(Cardboard Aided Design) to see how hard a spoiler would be...

'Bro just spray it matte black and it'll look mean az'.

Still looks better than what most dr1ft0rz put on their cars!

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:31 pm

Haha not quite its all gone now, just thinking about some measurements.

Im sure if you gave me some foam board though I could make something up.

CarbonMiata · Post by **CarbonMiata** » Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:56 am

siren676 wrote:Cardboard fibre spoiler

where are the pictures of your carbon fibre hardtop spoiler mate?

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