Rollbars - If it fits a soft top, will it fit a hardtop?

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:49 am

This may be a stupid question, however google has failed me tonight.
At the moment im looking at a cusco rollbar from japan, the cusco catalogue says that it is for a soft top model however the hardtop model has a different code.

So basically, my question, is the hardtop larger interior space wise than the softtop?

Not sure if this will help, but ..
Catalogue - cusco.co.jp/en/pdf/Roll%20cage_mazda.pdf
Soft top code is 404 270 E20
Hardtop code is 404 270 EHT

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:08 am

Hardtop rollbars need to be slightly shorter so its no surprise they have a different code

punkoutnz · Post by **punkoutnz** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:23 am

The bar I've got is a carbing one, it clears both and is veeery snug with the hard top on. I'm 99% sure if you get the one to clear the hard top, it'll clear the soft top as well.

chris · Post by **chris** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:54 am

Yup! Mine fitted under the soft top but not the hard top, I got it cut down

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:49 pm

Okay thanks for the help, wasn't sure. It's 2nd hand off yahoo auctions so there isnt a hardtop one available at the moment but ill keep my eye out.

Its like a full bolt in cage, headrests to windscreen so thats why i was interested, If anyone is interested in buying it, its $800 to wellsford but ETA is unknown, was getting it through ewan from hayatonka

Link - page12.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/p287471894

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Gosh that's tempting... Wanna ask Ewan how much to send it to Edward Wong In Auckland instead? he will know who I mean.

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:04 pm

Have just asked for you, will post here when he replies

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:07 pm

Cheers man, Ed is a mate of mine who i get to order stuff from Ewan for me ha

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:14 pm

haha allgood i believe i know who you mean, goes by orion on most forums? :p

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:17 pm

Yes! Mr Ed also known as Mystery Wong (its what I write on all the packages for him at work ha)

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:38 pm

hahaha mystery wong, i like it.

anyway, ewan has said;

Hi dylan

Ok the same price aplies to ed
He or someone will have to pickup to roll bar from our agents in welsford

Sent from my iPhone

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:03 pm

Hmm Cusco bolt in and sell my mazdaspeed one or full weld in cage...

Bwarp · Post by **Bwarp** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:06 pm

You won't get a WOF with a full cage.

And as far as I'm aware you don't get a full cage certified in NZ without Motorsport authority.

You also won't get motorsport authority for a bolt in cage from what i've read.... MANZ don't like cheapie bolt in cages.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you're probably better off spending the coin and getting a full weld in cage (can be done for around $1300ish at most places)

Just FYI.

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 11:48 pm

Yeah im meaning full weld in with Authority card etc

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:57 pm

I discussed at length with the tech officer at Motorsport NZ office the fitting of a very nice Mazdaspeed roll cage for my car (for competition purposes) and he explained that only roll protection built and certified in NZ would ever meet our scruitineering standards. Obviously there are exceptions (World Rally NZ cars coming in) but my understanding is that even if you were to import say a race car from offshore, without some sort of FIA stickered cage, you would need to cut the cage out and start again...
I stand to be corrected, of course...but a phone call to Motorsport NZ is highly recommended if you think you are going to see tracktime.

Cheers
Ian

dylann · Post by **dylann** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Sweet thanks for the info, will find a suitable behind-seat rollbar to start with as i do plan to go to some khana's and trackdays eventually, just incase i roll i want some protection

Ian · Post by **Ian** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:39 pm

dylann wrote:Sweet thanks for the info, will find a suitable behind-seat rollbar to start with as i do plan to go to some khana's and trackdays eventually, just incase i roll i want some protection

Thats what I have...custom built...welded in when I only had a soft top. When I later bought a hardtop for racing...and removed the soft top to save weight, the hardtop fitted without any mods required.

Furai · Post by **Furai** » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:07 pm

How much was it and who built it?

Timmo · Post by **Timmo** » Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:14 pm

Thread revive

Ian- How much was your rollbar and who made it? Im considering either importing a Hard Dog Deuce bar ($445 USD + Shipping...so ~$800 NZD landed at a guess?) or seeing how much it would be to fabricate one here based on the same design (and possibly raising the hoops slightly if poss)

I had a bar from Dons Autoway services in Hamilton on my NA....and it did the job, but wasn't the prettiest thing in the world, it also interfered with raising the soft top when you reached back due to the diagonal bar.

The Boss Frog hoop sits the hoops in front of the seatbelt towers which interferes with the seat belt retraction....so I think that would caused a failed WOF here.

Rollbars - If it fits a soft top, will it fit a hardtop?

Rollbars - If it fits a soft top, will it fit a hardtop?

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