Nb 1600 fit Na 1600?

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Nb 1600 fit Na 1600?

Post by WideOpenThrottle » Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:06 pm

Still on the hunt & should i come across a good 1600 NB motor will it fit the NA 1600 exhaust manifold, etc? I will be putting in a link Ecu so no need for the NB pcm!
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Post by brownie » Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:28 pm

NB B6 is mostly the same,They do also run a Cam angle sensor and Crank sensor off the front of the motor as well.
Seem to be fairly bullet proof,Never sold a NB B6 engine yet thru work,Sold plenty of NB BP's due to breaking down

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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:30 am

Cheers brownie-so it should be possible to connect the CAS & Crank sensors to an NA circuit?
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Post by Euen » Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:12 am

Not sure about the 1.6, but on the 1.8 you use the early CAS on the back of the head as that is what talks to the ecu. On the 1.8s, the front mounting cam and crank sensors deliver different signals that the older ECUs do not recognise. I suspect the same situation will apply to the 1.6.

On the newer 1.8, the opening for the CAS is still on the back of the head behind the exhaust cam with a removable blanking plate in it. I guess on the newer 1.6 it should be on the back of the inlet cam but you would need to confirm that.
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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:29 pm

Yep-Euen that sounds logical and i would think that the Crank sensor could be left off as the NA 1.6 doesn't [have one?].
[funny!-my manual says the cam shaft sensor is the crank angle sensor???.........now i am confused? is there such a thing as a CRANK angle sensor on an NA-doesn't look like it, but there does appear to be both on the NB's :?:
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Post by Euen » Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:21 pm

The crank sensor is integrated into the CAS. It delivers 2 pulse trains to the ecu, one for cam position and one for crank. They are both derived from the camshaft but in theory the relationship between them should always be the same.
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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Fri Dec 09, 2011 5:13 pm

Thanks Euen - sounds like it wont be too hard putting in the NB1600 into my NA ! :D

All i need is to find one, so if any one knows where one is or has a beaten up one for sale please let me know!...Cheers.
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Post by Euen » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:09 pm

Ross is advertising on his website that he has a 2002 1600 but not sure if it still has an engine.
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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:23 pm

Euen wrote:Ross is advertising on his website that he has a 2002 1600 but not sure if it still has an engine.
I have been emailing him earlier this week as well as asking on his site on TradeMe.He must be busy or away because as yet i have had no reply :(
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Post by fiveisalive » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:25 am

You'd best give Ross a call.... I once sent him an email, and he replied back weeks later!!

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Post by WideOpenThrottle » Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:07 am

Latest is i have now decided to freshen up the existing engine as i couldn't find one that had good &/or even compression readings.
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