Different but related subect

r.v.boxall · Post by **r.v.boxall** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:13 pm

My car as (AAARRGG te aitc as gone!)an old alarm fitted, and it doesn't work. Wat would be a good replaceent? I'd like to be able to leave it wit te top down, soeties(and te !
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r.v.boxall · Post by **r.v.boxall** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:32 pm

Okay, my keyboard was suffering from a coffee attack! It lost its h and m. Replacement keyboard from the good old IT Dept!

I need a recommendation for a car alarm for the MX5. I don't have, or really want, a hard-top, so that's out!

Ron Boxall
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Thomas Beagle · Post by **Thomas Beagle** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 3:55 pm

Last year I went to a couple of places. Both tried to sell me one from
the Dynatron range so that's what I ended up getting.

I was only getting it for insurance reasons (and remote entry) so I
didn't really care that much about it. Ummm,... it's ok, I guess.

Personally I suggest not bothering with the motion detectors. Miatas are
small cars which sway in the bracing Wellington wind or when other
vehicles pass. Too many false alarms will lead to your car getting
assaulted by the neighbours.

Anyway, I'm up to Auckland next week for the Big Day Out and to get the
front of the crankshaft welded up. I'm looking forward to getting my
mid-range power back.

Thomas.

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Dynatron all the way ..! They have the ricey blue LED, but this can be
easily changed to a regular red one for a less "distinctive" look.

Ask a good alarm installer what they recommend (watch out for the
vested interest of course). I think most will go with Dynatron -
standards approved, good support.

Be aware that the optional microwave sensor can be a bit flakey in hot
weather, and in the rain. Mostly it's no problem though - a bypass
switch may be useful for those hot days however.

Hope that helps.

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EricW · Post by **EricW** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:22 pm

Bought a Mongoose for our car. Works well. A bit sensitive with the top
down, but the immobiliser works pretty well and I don't leave anything in
the car that can get pinched.

Setting the motion detector is a bit of a black art, you dont want it going
off as someone walks in front of the car, but it needs to go off if someone
puts a hand in, achieving that is a bit of an issue.

Even with the alarm switched off in the garage, it flattens the battery if
you do not drive the car for about a week.

I would probably buy another one

Regards

Eric

Simon Lord · Post by **Simon Lord** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 5:04 pm

I have a Mongoose too, Eric, and originally had the same battery-flattening
problem. After much messing about, the alarm sensors were re-installed
properly and the problem stopped. I can now leave the car for 3 weeks or so
with the alarm on and it restarts no problem. So it might be worth checking
the sensor installations - it was the one under the bonnet that was the
problem on mine.

Simon

SLYDIT · Post by **SLYDIT** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:12 pm

heres a site which has add on microwave sensor for
alarms, it will only work with alarms that have a dual
stage shock sensor, you can adjust the inner and outer zones to suit.
http://www.caraudio-caralarms.com/508D.html
at US$41 its not a bad price, although you'll have to
get it wired in by someone "in the know".

Mike Jolley · Post by **Mike Jolley** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:35 pm

HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCE,HAD BATEERY TESTED AND IT WAS KNACKERD, NOW 4 WEEKS
WHILE ON OVERSEAS HOLIDAY WILL STILL FIRE UP FIRST TIME. MIKE

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:27 am

Hi,
vehicle security is my business. I not going to push myself in this
forum so will just make a couple of observations.
A good immobiliser is a must. Standards approved I believe as a minimum.
A microwave sensor which is typically used for convertibles is an
interesting beast.
It does need adjusting and positioning for the car. Mine is set so
that I leave the roof down and the side windows up. I also have a wind
deflector which stays up at the rear. This makes the inside of the car
a 'cup' if you will. The zone inside if entered will trigger the
alarm. I have no problem with walking around the car.
A two stage or dual zone microwave can be used as above and also has
an exterior zone that extends out from the car . this can be set to
provide 'pre intrusion' alerts. That means it chirps once as a
indication and only goes to full alarm with multiple triggers in a
defined time frame.

Shock sensors are those that typically trigger with a gust of wind or
a bus/truck passing. Sometimes even taxi radios.

There isn't a sensor that I know off that can be the perfect
protection by itself. It is a combination that will give you the
amount of protection you are looking for.

Properly installed, the immobiliser/alarm will not flatten the battery
prematurely. I have some equipment and ideas to make those problems go
away also.

I'm reminded also of a moment some years ago when I was walking around
the pits at a motorcycle race meeting with a friend of mine who had
only recently taken up the sport. We came across one particularly
famous racers pit and were oohing and aahing over the machinery and
the setup he had. My friend was taken with his helmet and asked what
it had cost. $4000 was the reply. "What?" my friend said "I would
never pay that for a helmet!" He looked at us and said" Well I guess
it depends an what you think your head is worth"

Better stop before I run out of paper

Cheers

Colin

EricW · Post by **EricW** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 11:44 am

Where are you located Colin, I would be interested to discuss the battery
flattening issue. The battery in the car is only about 18 months old and
regularly maintained, so I dont think that is an issue.

Actually, I recently spent a fortnight away and the battery was flat when we
returned, even though the alarm was not "set" as such. Of course, the
immobiliser sets whether you like it or not. So there might be a problem
with the install

Regards

Eric

Colin · Post by **Colin** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 12:30 pm

I am based in Wellington ( I live in Raumati)
Home is 04 9050731 and Work/mobile 021 782748.
The batteries provided in Mx5's are quite different from the wet cell
type that most people have experience with.
There charge /discharge characteristics are such that a battery may
appear dead. Then respond to conditioning and behave like a new
battery again. Its certainly worth trying before you consign it to the bin.
I am very happy to explain how to go about this and what to look for
as indicators.

Cheers
Colin

Mikkels · Post by **Mikkels** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:11 pm

Thomas

Are you getting the crank done at Taylors?

Don

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Thomas Beagle · Post by **Thomas Beagle** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:03 am

Yes, I don't know of anyone else who does it. (Someone in Wellington
would have made life a little bit easier.)

As I'll be driving back to Wellington a couple of days after it's done,
I've signed up for the AA+ service which has better vehicle recovery
arrangements!

Thomas.

mikkels@ihug.co.nz wrote:
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Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:36 am

I am insured with AMI and $250 is the excess, but then I have a locked
garage where my MX lives. I have also installed a Mongoose alarm with
immobiliser and microwave sensor.

The Mongoose works just fine - no battery woes at all. It also operates in
the 'proximity' mode - this means that if a person approaches close to the
car the system will chirp to warn off. The sensitivity can be adjusted (GET
A RELIABLE EXPERIENCED AUTO ELECTRICIAN TO DO IT FOR YOU! MY EXPERIENCE IS
THAT YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.).

I am in Wellington and am happy to recommend the place that did the work for
me if anyone is interested.

Cheers,
Brian Hall

Mikkels · Post by **Mikkels** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 8:40 pm

They are a good outfit. I'm sure it will go well. I have a
mate at work who got his Mazda 1600 hatch done after I saw
the MX in there getting done. All went well.

Cheers

Don

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