Who wants more steering angle?

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Who wants more steering angle?

Post by Furai » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:01 pm

I have decided to buy a pair of these Tie rods but I thought maybe if more people wanted them we could do a group buy and save on shipping?

Tie rods,
http://happoya.jp/?pid=14897040

For 2 of them shipped its $170NZD for each person but I have to get numbers before we get a good idea but I think it may be around the $140-160 mark?

Some Examples,
http://youtu.be/iOXLng5YlIA

http://youtu.be/ddQg4FLB8bQ

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Post by Kieran » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:41 pm

Ive heard they are good but you can modify the steering knuckles for more angle aswell

Check this out
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showth ... t=knuckles
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Post by Furai » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:26 pm

I was looking at these since they work with the old knuckes and you dont have to do much modding.

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Post by Brainflex » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:45 pm

I'm interested.

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Post by last_resort14 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:25 pm

I have the I concept rack ends, they work really well! I may be getting rid of mine in the near future, as I'm going to modified knuckles, knuckles will give more angle but will never get a wof or cert.

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Post by SLYDIT » Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:58 pm

how do the tie rods give you more angle?
i can see how shortening the steering knuckles would work but not the tie rods???
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Post by Kieran » Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:02 am

why cant modded knuckles get a WOF they wouldnt even know the difference

the WOF guys dont know shit if you didnt get them painted they will look stock
These knuckles have also been impact tested
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Post by Furai » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:21 pm

I guess its just the rules but most WOF guys wont pick it up.

The tie rods are slightly longer moving the pivot out, also the pivot has a bit more throw to my understanding.

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Post by Kieran » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:23 pm

the iconcept rods are also reinforced

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Post by 2low2c » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:44 pm

the tie rod are the same lenght, the ball joint is in the same place,the differance is they have a mechined step on the housing end allowing them to go in side the housing further. you can mechine a standard set of rods to do the same job

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Post by Angreal » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:57 pm

So basically it means I can turn my wheel further and won't need a cert? Or it'll make the steering more sensitive as well as further steering angle?

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Post by Kieran » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:00 pm

lets put it this way I heard with the modded knuckles you can do a U-turn in the space of 2 car parks

Look at the earlier pics I put up the wheel has a better turning circle sensitivity doesnt change unless you depower the power steering rack

in the pics it doesnt look like alot but thats a good +20-25 degrees steering angle

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Post by Kieran » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:06 pm

heres some better pics with JUST modded knuckles no further steering mods
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Post by SLYDIT » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:47 pm

can you buy shortened kuckles? not keen on welded ones.
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Post by Kieran » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:46 am

they are all just welded unfortunately there is no manufacturer that just makes them

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Post by Furai » Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:16 pm

Anyone still keen on these? If the Yen strengthens it would be good to look into...

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Post by Kieran » Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:49 pm

The knuckles are from the states but you can get iconcept tie rods which will do the same thing from japland

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Post by Furai » Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:19 pm

This is about the Tie rods Im not keen on knuckles.

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Post by Bwarp » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:24 am

I'll be keen brosef. Game on.

Lemme know when you wanna place order and we can suss out some cash money.
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Post by evel » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:15 pm

is installing new tie rods a missh?
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Post by dylann » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:24 pm

Could be interested, do you know what the difference is between the angle of these tie rods and the modified knuckles?

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Post by Snapfrozen » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:37 pm

evel wrote:is installing new tie rods a missh?
Depends if you want to have a new wheel alignment or not. If not, then jack up car, mark rods so you know the position theyre in, remove them, mark new rods in same position, fit, pray.

I'd just do it by eye then drive to your local to get a new alignment done.

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Post by Bwarp » Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:10 pm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 242565.htm

similar? seems cheap to achieve the same effect?
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Post by Kieran » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:39 am

Bwarp wrote:http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-par ... 242565.htm

similar? seems cheap to achieve the same effect?
NO!!! please don't your car will thank me

Those spacers cover up the thread I've heard some really bad stories about them
You can order a spacer off Iconcept with the tie rods but I wouldnt run a spacer on the stock rods

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Post by Bwarp » Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:45 am

Haha that's the advice I was looking for. A+
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