What'd you do to your car this week/weekend?

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:34 am

The rest had some stripped threads. Possibly wheel balance or alignment decided which one came off first

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:42 am

Snapfrozen wrote:The rest had some stripped threads. Possibly wheel balance or alignment decided which one came off first

I'd have thought the lack of a locator ring would have caused balance issues in itself if the wheel wasn't centred properly (which is likely if the wheels and nuts were flat-faced), possibly causing the nuts to fail.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:01 am

Mr. Shine wrote:
Snapfrozen wrote:The rest had some stripped threads. Possibly wheel balance or alignment decided which one came off first
I'd have thought the lack of a locator ring would have caused balance issues in itself if the wheel wasn't centred properly (which is likely if the wheels and nuts were flat-faced), possibly causing the nuts to fail.

The locator ring makes more sense to me. Well, the lack of locator ring anyway!

Once/if I get the car repaired, goodbye to my plans, I'm just going to sack it. Cannot be bothered with it any more

tomtikki · Post by **tomtikki** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:10 am

Aww don't give up on it dude.
It's only been one little bump in the road!

-sorry, it's really not funny.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:13 am

Haha Don't worry about making jokes..

Nah, I have been through a lot of problems with it.

I did plan for around 250 whp. But now I'm like Uh.

So slammed society and sell it to some rich Honda kid

last_resort14 · Post by **last_resort14** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:28 am

I would be looking at the wheel nuts, they should never strip out without some serious abuse , were they alloy wheel nuts?

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:29 am

Again - not to sure.

Although regardless, I was doing 50 K's and I was genuinely being a nanna driver. I have emailed super cheap to let them know as clearly it is a safety hazard..

If need be I can upload pictures of the stripped nuts.

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:34 am

Pics or it didn't happen Chris, same as I told you the other day.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:38 am

Here ya go

Not the best picture >.< But you can kinda see that the thread has been stripped

There the thread is! It's okay guys, I found it!

Born_disturbed · Post by **Born_disturbed** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 9:41 am

That looks more like alloy fillings ripped off the mag from the disk rolling around in it..

Still failsource, I have had this happen while driving a mates car before

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:35 am

Surely the threads wouldn't have been stripped unless they'd had some sort of substantial force put on them? I know it's all speculation, but if the wheel had been properly centred and the nuts were torqued down evenly and to the correct torque setting, then the nuts surely wouldn't have just stripped themselves?

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:33 am

Don't want to sound pessimistic Chris, but if your goal was to make 250whp, you are going to have more things go wrong than this. Imo, fix it and carry on, you learned a lesson the hard way, but at least it wasn't fire, or a tree

Angreal · Post by **Angreal** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:48 am

Snapfrozen wrote:Don't want to sound pessimistic Chris, but if your goal was to make 250whp, you are going to have more things go wrong than this. Imo, fix it and carry on, you learned a lesson the hard way, but at least it wasn't fire, or a tree

Or something going out the side of the engine or the engine just dying from bad a/f I guess...

Done the fire trick once, wasn't ideal

Moral of the story is to use fuses and relays and to put a bit of thought into how the current will flow etc

(battery --> amp --> floor or battery --> fog lights --> switch in the console --> floor). The amp died after a couple of months, I think the lights caused the fire but who knows... Oh and I got my mate to wire up the new stereo who checked if wires were live by touching stuff to the chassis... I guess that wasn't ideal either

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:51 am

Snapfrozen wrote:Don't want to sound pessimistic Chris, but if your goal was to make 250whp, you are going to have more things go wrong than this. Imo, fix it and carry on, you learned a lesson the hard way, but at least it wasn't fire, or a tree

Oh no, I knew what I was getting myself into. There wore going to be lots of problems.

But the paint work was 2 or 3 months old, the wheels were 4 days old it was like a kick in the teeth

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:32 pm

No different to blowing up a brand new engine. I think you are over concerned about the damage to the car. The fender is an easy fix. Find out if she's straight and go and get yourself full insurance

Mr. Shine · Post by **Mr. Shine** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:54 pm

Snapfrozen wrote:get yourself full insurance

Pretty much this entirely.

The mind boggles as to why people invest good money into their cars without bothering with insurance.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:12 pm

Well no, there isn't a difference.. But I would feel more comfortable working on the engine than I would on the panels

Like I said though it is just a goal! haha

Long term goal.

Full insurance will definitely be coming in now! Although, I would not have filed a claim with this incident

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:51 pm

The one people ALWAYS forget about with full insurance is "I've never had an accident, 3rd party is fine", but what if you have damage to your vehicle while parked as well

Can't claim on that for 3rd party. Stick it out bro, I'm not the panel king but I've done some DIY work. I reckon take to it with a hammer and see how you go. Can't get worse

Growler · Post by **Growler** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:54 pm

Just reading through these posts I might add my 2 cents worth.

I run a 2 piece aftermarket wheel. I have had these wheels on the car for about 16 years and have never run hub rings. I have done many gymkhanas (Grass and tarmac), track days and general hooning around and have never had an issue. I agree that it would help centralise the wheel on the hub but if you have a lot of thread engagement on the studs this would still be adequate. (It’s my intention to machine some up but I really haven’t had the time or the notion).
Looking at the photos the thread on the nut has stripped but the studs are OK? Do the wheels have the tapered steel insert where the nut tightens up on? If that’s the case then I would say the wrong nuts have been used (Based on the photos you have posted), and as a result, there hasn’t been enough thread engagement to support the wheel under load. If whoever sold you the wheel nuts should have known this so you may have a strong case.
Of course I would have to see this in the flesh to confirm.
Chris – although crap like this happens I wouldn’t give up just yet (Unless the car is for sale and I can get it cheap!!).
Where abouts in Auckland are you. I can come around and have a look if you wish.
I have a trade cert in Engineering (Fitting and Turning) but haven’t touched a lathe or milling machine for many years!

EDIT: Which wheels are we talking about? The black ones or pink ones?
You don't run spacers do you? I still think there hasn't been enough thread engagement but as I suggested I would need to have a look at them.

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:03 pm

Growler wrote:Just reading through these posts I might add my 2 cents worth.

I run a 2 piece aftermarket wheel. I have had these wheels on the car for about 16 years and have never run hub rings. I have done many gymkhanas (Grass and tarmac), track days and general hooning around and have never had an issue. I agree that it would help centralise the wheel on the hub but if you have a lot of thread engagement on the studs this would still be adequate. (It’s my intention to machine some up but I really haven’t had the time or the notion).
Looking at the photos the thread on the nut has stripped but the studs are OK? Do the wheels have the tapered steel insert where the nut tightens up on? If that’s the case then I would say the wrong nuts have been used (Based on the photos you have posted), and as a result, there hasn’t been enough thread engagement to support the wheel under load. If whoever sold you the wheel nuts should have known this so you may have a strong case.
Of course I would have to see this in the flesh to confirm.
Chris – although crap like this happens I wouldn’t give up just yet (Unless the car is for sale and I can get it cheap!!).
Where abouts in Auckland are you. I can come around and have a look if you wish.
I have a trade cert in Engineering (Fitting and Turning) but haven’t touched a lathe or milling machine for many years!

EDIT: Which wheels are we talking about? The black ones or pink ones?
You don't run spacers do you? I still think there hasn't been enough thread engagement but as I suggested I would need to have a look at them.

I have been tossing and turning selling it.

I love it to much haha

Thanks so much, you Keith Jones, and Euen have all offered a look! Thanks guys, I have an Insurance Assessor coming to look at it tomorrow (I use him at work as I work in insurance) so I will see what he says.

The lugs on the car are all sweet, just the nuts that have been stripped..

From what I can see, the nuts fit the wheels. I will be having a 50th look tonight when I get home =]

EDIT: Pink wheels.. Unfortunately I brought this car to lear about mechanics and modifying cars. I am in no way saying I am not at fault.. I could be, although I still feel that I should have been made aware of this when purchasing them

Kieran · Post by **Kieran** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:14 pm

You work in insurance and you don't have insurance?

Thats like a banker not having a bank account

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:16 pm

Kieran wrote:You work in insurance and you don't have insurance?

Thats like a banker not having a bank account

Hahaha

Yes. I have insurance, just not through this company. I only have third party, was going to make it tp fire and theft on the weekend >.<

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:26 pm

Who do you work for?

I'm in insurance too. I'd definately look at full cover, especially with a convertible. So easy to steal/do damage to

chris · Post by **chris** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:29 pm

^ Hard case!

IUA - International Underwriting Agency.

Not direct Insurance, but a lot easier to explain

Who do you work for?

Snapfrozen · Post by **Snapfrozen** » Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:38 pm

IAG, I'm an underwriting technician for one of our banking partners

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