Still on about tickets.

lou Girardin · Post by **lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 4:18 pm

How about the Police gloating over booking the rally guys. OK, Sohlberg was
stupid in driving on a footpath, no sympathy for him. But booking the others
for speeding!
Who would be safer? One of the top ten rally drivers in a full works car
driving at 49km/h over the (temp) limit, or Joe Bloggs in his Jap import 4WD,
cellphone glued to his ear and exploring his nostrils as he weaves down the
motorway at 100km/h. Hmmm, tough one.
And what's with all the temporary speed limits popping up all over with no
sign of road works or workers? Even the temp limits on loose chip can only be
in place for a limited time, 48hrs I think, I've seen them up for 4 days.
Good hunting grounds for the IRD traffic dept though.
Lou

Nina · Post by **Nina** » Mon Apr 14, 2003 5:59 pm

Yeah, I know how you feel. Too often you hit the temporary speed limit for
road works just to find that there are NO roadworks in progress and the
surface is, well, normal. Actually, the only time in the last 3 years I've
actually have had to slow down because of REAL roadworks was last weekend
going from Waihi to Whangamata (God I love those windy roads up there) and
the surface was full of medium size rocks whith roadies shovveling dirt on
top of it. My Dwarf behaves like a rollerskate on gravel so I would have
taken it easy regardless, but hey, this was an exemption! In the end I tend
to think that nothings going on and keep my normal speed. I suppose I should
start thinking otherwise

*grumble*
Nik & the Red Dwarf

lou Girardin · Post by **lou Girardin** » Tue Apr 15, 2003 8:19 am

Yeah, caution is best. Last year there was heavy enforcement on some
'roadworks' near Waipu, several people lost licences for a month. Then it was
discovered that the roadworks were not legal. How can you give back 28 days
banned from driving?
When I was in the MOT, we made absolutely sure all the i's were dotted and t's
crossed BEFORE we wrote a ticket.
But then, we didn't have revenue targets.
Lou

my2cta · Post by **my2cta** » Fri Apr 18, 2003 1:48 pm

Recent roadworks along SH2 at Kaitoke (north of Upper Hutt) have seen some
interesting placement of temporary signs. On the way out from Upper Hutt
you hit a 70 kph sign shortly after the start of the last overtaking lane
before the hilly bits, therefore can't risk overtaking without huge fine or
loss of licence. No, the roadworks aren't there, they start several bends
after the overtaking lane finishes. The sign should have been placed at the
bottom of the hill, several hundred metres after where it was. In the other
direction, however, the temporary 70 kph sign was never followed by a
cancellation sign. For another 6 or 7 kms of 100 limit road you could have
theoretically been done for exceeding the still-in-force-but-not-required
temporary limit.

Whilst travelling from Queenstown to Wanaka last week via Cromwell (on
holiday) passed no less than THREE police cars in 40 minutes that had
lights on and had stopped errant motorists. Roads were almost empty,
weather perfect. Only excuse was obviously a spate of intense revenue
gathering. Then read in the local Queenstown paper that there had been a
local area blitz with 65 drivers ticketed and that average speed of those
booked had been 120. Average! Must have raised a lot of money. Luckily we
were driving a house-on-4-wheels at the time, cruising speed 90 kph (and
pull over to let anything fast get by), so no licence risks for us. Glad I
wasn't in the MX.

Tim Dutton
MY2CTA

tim.maggie · Post by **tim.maggie** » Sun Apr 20, 2003 8:50 pm

Yeah, the dominatrix (clarke) has obviously set her ex MoT "police" loose
to milk the motorist for all she can get. She's bleeding us dry in every
other area so why not? Have had 2x "speeding infringement notices" for
exceeding the limit by the totally reckless amount of 11 and 12 km/hr in the
mx. Haven't had any others for so many years that I cant remember when.
(Does driving a '5 make your foot heavier?)

First prize place in NZ for absurd speed limits = Ashburton. Have to drive
through this horribly self important little piece of boredom too often going
south from Chch to the Waitaki. A 50k funeral march crawl for bleeding
miles which is especially irritating south of the river through Tinwald,
Railway on one side of the Rd, bugger all on the other! Everyone creeps
along at exactly 50 too. Obviously been well trained by the local highly
motivated revenue collectors.

Well actually the new(ish) "bypass" of Temuka is also up there . Limited
access but yep! 50k all the way.

But I dont know what all you Nth Islanders are complaining about, drove from
Welly to Wanganui and back last week and never saw a cop! Its crawling with
the ex MoT down here.

Tim.

my2cta · Post by **my2cta** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:08 pm

I noticed the same comparing my short trip to South Island last week (saw 4
cops stopping people in the few hundred kms driven) vs. the tens of
thousands driven in North Island annually. Can't remember last time I saw
someone being stopped in NI, the cops I see always seem to be sitting with
a camera aimed at snapping lots of people. I assume there are three main
reasons for the difference.

1. So little traffic in the SI that a cop that sat in one place and relied
on camera alone would take very few snaps compared to NI cop, therefore
would be light on revenue targets.
2. SI cops enjoy the thrill of the chase with lights and sirens going and
can pull a swift U turn with impunity on the empty roads. NI cops have to
negotiate so much traffic there is a good chance the chasee will get away
by the time the cop has had a chance to do the required U turn. Also
chasing in heavy traffic is a lot more dangerous, plus relies on the
goodwill of Joe Public to get out of the way.
3. NI cops have so many real crims to go after (especially in Auckland)
that they have less time to harass innocent motorists. SI cops have no
crims except people doing 120+ on the empty roads. Catching speeders is
their primary reason for existence.

Not sure whether it makes it better or worse to drive an MX5 in the South
Island. After all, if the road is empty, but you don't dare go over about
105 tops, it sounds much the same as driving in busy traffic on SH2 out of
Wellington, only a lot more frustrating.

Tim Dutton
MY2CTA

shaznandy lockyer · Post by **shaznandy lockyer** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 5:51 pm

"First prize place in NZ for absurd speed limits = Ashburton. Have to drive
through this horribly self important little piece of boredom too often going
south from Chch to the Waitaki." Make the trip enjoyable every once in a while and steer inland at Rakaia...make your way past Baaa Hill, Windwhistle, Rakaia River Gorge, Stavely, Mayfeild, Mt. Sommers then steer coast wards to re-join lowway one between Hinds and the Rangitata River. A few extra miles but you are in an MX-5!:)

"tim.maggie" <tim.maggie@xtra.co.nz> wrote:Yeah, the dominatrix (clarke) has obviously set her ex MoT "police" loose
to milk the motorist for all she can get. She's bleeding us dry in every
other area so why not? Have had 2x "speeding infringement notices" for
exceeding the limit by the totally reckless amount of 11 and 12 km/hr in the
mx. Haven't had any others for so many years that I cant remember when.
(Does driving a '5 make your foot heavier?)

First prize place in NZ for absurd speed limits = Ashburton. Have to drive
through this horribly self important little piece of boredom too often going
south from Chch to the Waitaki. A 50k funeral march crawl for bleeding
miles which is especially irritating south of the river through Tinwald,
Railway on one side of the Rd, bugger all on the other! Everyone creeps
along at exactly 50 too. Obviously been well trained by the local highly
motivated revenue collectors.

Well actually the new(ish) "bypass" of Temuka is also up there . Limited
access but yep! 50k all the way.

But I dont know what all you Nth Islanders are complaining about, drove from
Welly to Wanganui and back last week and never saw a cop! Its crawling with
the ex MoT down here.

Tim.
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Mike Pearson - WYSIWYG... · Post by **Mike Pearson - WYSIWYG...** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 9:17 pm

Well I'm not sure how legal some of the devices are
(such as the laser jammers), but this site is worth
reading... www.laserbusters.com

Regards,

Chic & Morven · Post by **Chic & Morven** » Mon Apr 21, 2003 10:31 pm

We went round south island in out MX5 for five weeks a couple of years ago. We didn't see a single police car. Not one.

I hardly ever see people pulled over here in Auckland, but Waikato seems to have 4 cop cars on every road. On my last trip, I got pulled over once (front number plate) and THREE times, I saw blue lights in the mirror and had the car behind me or the car ahead pulled over for one reason or another. Yet another reason I don't live in Hamilton

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Ian Chapman · Post by **Ian Chapman** » Tue Apr 22, 2003 10:47 am

This is on the Stuff website this morning (and also a good front page
writeup in the Dominion Post). Nothing new but still interesting and
frustrating:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2420705a10,00.html

I have to admit, that two tickets within 10 days in Feb last year has
slowed me down to a safer speed - so I guess it does work! Both were
classic end of passing lane to get past traffic that had been holding up
a steam of cars for a long time - and of course found their accelerator
when they hit the passing lane!

Ian

lola.anna · Post by **lola.anna** » Thu Apr 24, 2003 8:59 pm

I live in Ashburton and YES YES YES the MOT is extra vigilant and very
thorough in ticketing. Just take a corner the wrong way and zap., Just
forget to indicate zap zap
However I must say that the standard of driving has improved out of sight and
ONLY IDIOTS drink at all n drive in town. MOT also vigilantly polices all
roads in the surrounding areas.
Today driving from Christchurch to Ashburton I saw no less than six individual
MOT cars all working hard.
Sure would rather be driving a MX5 than be a MOT officer that is for sure.

lou Girardin · Post by **lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:35 am

If there isn't a de-restriction sign, the speed limit is not enforceable.

lou Girardin · Post by **lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:39 am

Laser jammers are legal. They transmit light, not radio frequency. Radar
jammers over, I think, 1 watt output are not.
Lou

lou Girardin · Post by **lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:40 am

Who says it's a safer speed? You're buying into their propaganda bullshit.
Lou

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