Speed Cameras: HELP

Lou Girardin · Post by **Lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:50 pm

Gee Eric, you're good. I stopped most people because they were exceeding the
limit, not being unsafe.
Lou

Lou Girardin · Post by **Lou Girardin** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 8:57 pm

So, by Ian's reasoning, people in the '20s and '30s should have just stopped
drinking and we'd still have prohibition.
And, what ever we do, don't protest about injustice.
BTW, the story about overpaying your fine originated in the UK, it didn't
work there either. demerits go on upon conviction, not how you pay your fine.
Lou

Post by **zorruno** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 10:39 pm

"ross campbell" <mx5mart@paradise.net.nz> said:

In Hamilton new seal has been laid over a camera site.
Will the sensors in the road still work with the added thickness of seal?.

Ross.

I don't know the exact detectors used, but I could pretty much bet that this
won't make an ounce of difference to detection. If the ground loop can
detect 4WDs & trucks forther than 500mm or more off the ground, a couple of
extra cm of seal won't make a difference - and the small effect of the added
metal can easily be tuned out (in fact ground loop detector circuits
generally self balance for the amount of surrounding metal & they just have
a high/med/low sensitivity switch).

However, you don't often see covered over loops these days as most road
resurfacing that I've seen recently, a layer of tarseal is ripped off the
road before new seal is layed. The road loop for the camera detector is
ripped up with it and new cuts are made in the new seal for the loop to be
re-layed (this happened at the end of my road recently)

cheers
zorruno

Post by **zorruno** » Mon Apr 05, 2004 11:15 pm

"David Moughtin" <Davidm@Snackmate.com> said:

Keeping to the same theme, can anyone comment on the urban legend that
claims that if you are fined, as in this example for speeding,you should

pay a

little more than the required amount, say $10 extra. The Fines Office are

then

obliged to refund the extra amount to you. But, if you do not cash their

cheque,

then the account stays open. Demerit points are not allocated to you until

the

account is closed.

total urban myth
http://www.snopes.com/autos/law/ticket.asp

EricW · Post by **EricW** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:53 am

So did I, but a certain commonsense and discretion was applied, I imagine
that you did the same. Do you remember verbal and written warnings?

Eric

Gary Morrison · Post by **Gary Morrison** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 11:02 am

Bill,

I believe that if you look at the ticket you will see that your option regarding defence is to make a written submission. Or perhaps this is if you admit guilt? You will need to decide if you are going to admit speeding (ie over 50) and then make some argument around that as defence, or deny speeding (ie you were not going over 50) and then defend that.

Gary

Bill Rehm · Post by **Bill Rehm** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 12:46 pm

This has been a fasinating email stream with about as much focus as a
Sky Tower laser light show on New years eve!

Thanks though Gary, I still have3n't decided what I'm going to do.
Probably it will depend on my workload whether I can take time to get up
some civil servant's nose (I'm pretty good at doing that).

Regards
Bill

carl.halvorsen · Post by **carl.halvorsen** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 2:04 pm

The MX5 was designed and built to give the illusion of speed without
speeding. How many times have you thought you were travelling fast only to
glance at the speedo and find you are going slower than you felt!

Carl

Bill Rehm · Post by **Bill Rehm** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:08 pm

With all due respect Carl, it's statements like yours which I categorise
as "mental masturbation".

Regards
Bill

Badcat · Post by **Badcat** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:13 pm

funny thing is bill -
it's really hard to see the respect in that statement at all.

ken

Bill Rehm · Post by **Bill Rehm** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:41 pm

Sorry Ken, I'm not going to engage you in another email stream tangent

Regards
Bill

Colin Francis · Post by **Colin Francis** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 4:50 pm

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:13:07 +1200, you wrote:

funny thing is bill -
it's really hard to see the respect in that statement at all.

ken

He's an American Ken .. LOL

Colin Francis
Krenford Holdings Ltd
P.O. Box 18547
Christchurch
New Zealand
Ph (64) 3 3387-450 or (64) 0 274 321-737

www.westmorland.co.nz

Ross Bryon · Post by **Ross Bryon** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:10 pm

Mr Francis,

That kind of "cute" blanket slur is unworthy... of this list... of
kiwis in general... and maybe even of you.

Ross Bryon

On Apr 6, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Colin Francis wrote:

[...]

Gary Morrison · Post by **Gary Morrison** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 5:26 pm

Gee,

This is sliding into the sort of discussion that needs moderating...

Chill out everyone.

On 6/04/2004 17:10:48, MX5List (mx5list@mx5club.org.nz) wrote:
[...]

Colin Francis · Post by **Colin Francis** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 7:22 pm

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 17:26:55 +1200, you wrote:

Gee,

This is sliding into the sort of discussion that needs moderating...

Chill out everyone.

Indeed . When humour (or humor) disappears there ain't much less

On 6/04/2004 17:10:48, MX5List (mx5list@mx5club.org.nz) wrote:
Mr Francis,

That kind of "cute" blanket slur is unworthy... of this list... of
kiwis in general... and maybe even of you.

Ross Bryon

On Apr 6, 2004, at 4:50 PM, Colin Francis wrote:

%

Colin Francis
Krenford Holdings Ltd
P.O. Box 18547
Christchurch
New Zealand
Ph (64) 3 3387-450 or (64) 0 274 321-737

www.westmorland.co.nz

Lou Girardin · Post by **Lou Girardin** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:29 pm

Yeah, more of those than live tickets. How times have changed.
Lou

Colin Francis · Post by **Colin Francis** » Tue Apr 06, 2004 10:49 pm

On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:29:14 +1200, you wrote:

Yeah, more of those than live tickets. How times have changed.
Lou

Sometimes a verbal warning had more effect in days gone by than the issuing of a
ticket. Our local Traffic guy could make anyone cringe in fear after a warning.
He probably saved more lives too .

--
Col

Col's law
* Thinly sliced cabbage *

Lou Girardin · Post by **Lou Girardin** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:07 am

That's so true. I was absolutely bollocked by a plain clothes cop for doing
burnouts when I was a kid. Actually, it was in an old Morris, so they were
really smoulder-outs. Anyway, I was so scared, I behaved for at least the
next 24 hours.
But, unlike today, I didn't begrudge the cop. He wasn't just after dollars
and was doing his job properly.
Lou

Jo Kyle · Post by **Jo Kyle** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:09 pm

Enough already - I thought this list was for valid MX5 topics... Not
disrespecting each other and learning how to break the law...

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