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Timmo
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another question (may as well keep them all together)

Is the timing advance to 14 deg useful on the 1800cc or does it only really give good gains for the 1600?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

14 degree timing on 1.8? - yes, do it. In high load/hot conditions you want to run 95 oct. or better to be on the safe side.
Done your fuel filter lately? (often overlooked during tuneups)

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok great. I've started running 96 octane so it should handle the timing change no problems....but Ill continue to monitor it after its done (today)


And yep, replaced the fuel filter in Jan....although I do notice another very small filter near the fuel rail? Is this known to get clogged or should everything be nice and clean before it reaches that?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not aware of another filter near the fuel rail as a production item. Are you sure it is a filter. A picture would help.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm actually, looking at it again, it might be a pressure regulator?

http://www.rpmgarage.com/new/detail/?tid=13696

See the pictures there, it is the small metal can in picture 4
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, that is the fuel pressure regulator. It bypasses excess fuel back to the tank.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my timing set to 16 at the moment, only runs on 98 and it goes nuts. My mate has a non-turbo S15 Silvia (165hp) and I can beat him all day long
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have my base timing set at 10* then i tell mr link when i want a spark
works well for me Laughing

mine goes nuts too
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well took it around Hampton downs on Saturday and it went really well- Not only does it feel like there is way more torque, the top end feels better too. Im running 96 RON at 14 degrees.....so I could likely either use 91 or advance a few more degrees with 96.

Fun times
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not necessarily....
14 degrees is probably optimum........

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEST TO STICK WITH THE 14* STATIC TIMING ON OEM/ECU SOFTWARE +95 RON FUEL.

*If you are running aftermarket " hump back" or stand alone ecu hardware, it is up to the engine tune requirements and consequently the tuner, to dictate/ write the advance curve maps as per vehicle intended usage.

If you want excitement: BOOST is the answer!

*CAUTION please use public roads with respect for the law and flowers, dolphins,penguins, hippies & world peace etc.


Gravelben will have a taste of "Goes nuts" soon too! Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a point i should point out that yes I am running 16deg but its not a 'factory' engine. It was tuned set up like it is and i have re-mapped ecu, different cams and a ported / polished head. I also only run BP 98 as that was the car was tuned for.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

by re-maped ecu is that a piggyback afc?
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